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Hi Don~
Scammers are all over the net~!
I sell online and I get 50-100 a week from them . It is easy to learn to recognize them however and not fall prey to their schemes. It is good you didnt fall for it...
i worked on MySpace 2 years ago simply going after scammers and turning them in! I even set them up pretending to go along with them til I would get enough info to forward to the FBI.
You can learn alot about scams by going into your search engine and typing in 419scams or Nigerian Scam and then a whole bunch of sites will come up and give you examples of how to recognize them.
They usually try to befriend you into trusting them .
They have many scenarios such as :
1] they write & say they want to buy from you, but want you to accept a Cashiers Check for a higher amount than what you are selling. They say to take shipping costs out and WESTERN UNION THEM THE BALANCE.
or
2] they offer you a job to collect money orders or checks on their behalf, cash them in your name & WESTERN UNION THE BALANCE to them
or
3] they are madly in love with your profile & want to come to America to marry you but need a plane ticket so they want you to WESTERN UNION THE MONEY TO THEM.
or
4}THEY HAVE a rich relative that died in Africa and they got a Bejillion dollars locked up in some village bank in the jungle and need YOUR NAME AND BANK INFO TO send their money into YOUR bank account BUT YOU are supposed to only keep 1/2 and then you have to WESTERN UNION THEM THEM MONEY FOR TRANSFER FEES ....
and more but always cashiers checks , money orders or Western Union - now even Walmart wire transfers are utilized in the scams..... My son received a bogus check to be a 'secret shopper' he was to cash the check, spend some in Walmart and go to the customer service and WIRE TRANSFER THE BALANCE to them and keep the stuff he bought! ,,, My son almost fell for it.. The check was from Mutual of Omaha and looked real.,...BUT we called the bank , gave them the account number and they told us it was bogus...
After a while when you see anything with cashiers checks, postal money orders or wire transfer involved... JUST SAY NO...EVERYTIME....
NEVER send anything COD.
NEVER send anything til you receive full payment and it CLEARS YOUR BANK~
NEVER GIVE YOUR BANK INFO OR PERSONAL INFO THAT THEY COULD STEAL YOUR IDENTITY.
IF they are legite - they can pay through PAYPAL .. ITS SAFE AND LEGAL.
IF THEY PAY WITH A US POSTAL MONEY ORDER - DO NOT cash it in a bank!! Bring it to the Post Office. Banks sometimes can not tell the counterfeit ones from the real ones.
IF YOU DEPOSIT A US POSTAL MONEY ORDER INTO YOUR BANK - IT CAN BOUNCE 3 DAYS LATER AND YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AMOUNT OF THE MONEY ORDER. This is why most scammers want to give you a larger money order because you get stuck with the bill after YOU WESTERN UNION THEM THE BALANCE....
There have been Bed and Breakfasts that have taken reservations from Scammers with a certified check in advance.Then then the scammers cancel their reservation . They owe the B&B owner for cancelling 'late' so tell the owner to go ahead and 'cash the cashier check or money order' deduct the amount owed and then WESTERN UNION THEM THE BALANCE~
Some B&B owners would send the money before cashing the checks or before they cleared the bank only to have to repay the bank themself afterwards... It happens to other businesses too..
My daughter sold a X-box on Craiglist and a scammer wrote wanting to do a cashiers check for a higher amount and yet didnt give an address as to where to ship the X-box but was more interested in the Western Union refund of the balance and wanted to know HER address... so I stopped that ... never give your info.. get theirs... if they want the item being sold... and have the money.... there should be no problem...if they playk any game about it, dont fall for it.. greed gets some people thinking they will make a fast buck, but only the scammer makes the money.. not you...
THE FBI gets so many complaints they can no longer follow up on all of them. It is estimated that 20Billion Dollars a year get stolen this way..There was even an FBI report proving that some if not most of the 419Nigerian scams are used to fund Al-Quaida cells in Nigeria~
Scambusters, and EbolaMonkeyman and others have websites up teaching you how to fight back.
Some of the stuff on EbolaMonkeyman is VERY FUNNY TO READ.....AS THEY SCAM THE SCAMMERS... iT IS SO FUNNY BUT VERY INFORMATIONAL....
SO to simply advertize online will not get you scammed.. I have been selling online for over 2 years and have never gotten robbed~ I did get fake money orders once that I brought to the Post Office. There were 5 $900 money orders of which I was to receive $450 to cash them and WESTERN UNION THEM THE MONEY... BUT THE scammers picked on the wrong lady...I didnt have that much in my bank to cover the money orders so I brought them to the Post office and they checked them carefully and almost paid me! Then the PO master noticed that the fake money orders were a tiny bit larger then real ones, but they looked real, even to them...
The Post Office kept the bogus money orders...
It was a good thing I didnt bring them to my bank, because they would have bounced 3 days later!!
so you got to play it safe online but advertising itself will not hurt you...
Always get paid first, verify the payment, let it clear the bank... then ship the item,
:)
Ave
This is all very interestig information and I want to thank you for it.Hi Don~
Scammers are all over the net~!
I sell online and I get 50-100 a week from them . It is easy to learn to recognize them however and not fall prey to their schemes. It is good you didnt fall for it...
i worked on MySpace 2 years ago simply going after scammers and turning them in! I even set them up pretending to go along with them til I would get enough info to forward to the FBI.
You can learn alot about scams by going into your search engine and typing in 419scams or Nigerian Scam and then a whole bunch of sites will come up and give you examples of how to recognize them.
They usually try to befriend you into trusting them .
They have many scenarios such as :
1] they write & say they want to buy from you, but want you to accept a Cashiers Check for a higher amount than what you are selling. They say to take shipping costs out and WESTERN UNION THEM THE BALANCE.
or
2] they offer you a job to collect money orders or checks on their behalf, cash them in your name & WESTERN UNION THE BALANCE to them
or
3] they are madly in love with your profile & want to come to America to marry you but need a plane ticket so they want you to WESTERN UNION THE MONEY TO THEM.
or
4}THEY HAVE a rich relative that died in Africa and they got a Bejillion dollars locked up in some village bank in the jungle and need YOUR NAME AND BANK INFO TO send their money into YOUR bank account BUT YOU are supposed to only keep 1/2 and then you have to WESTERN UNION THEM THEM MONEY FOR TRANSFER FEES ....
and more but always cashiers checks , money orders or Western Union - now even Walmart wire transfers are utilized in the scams..... My son received a bogus check to be a 'secret shopper' he was to cash the check, spend some in Walmart and go to the customer service and WIRE TRANSFER THE BALANCE to them and keep the stuff he bought! ,,, My son almost fell for it.. The check was from Mutual of Omaha and looked real.,...BUT we called the bank , gave them the account number and they told us it was bogus...
After a while when you see anything with cashiers checks, postal money orders or wire transfer involved... JUST SAY NO...EVERYTIME....
NEVER send anything COD.
NEVER send anything til you receive full payment and it CLEARS YOUR BANK~
NEVER GIVE YOUR BANK INFO OR PERSONAL INFO THAT THEY COULD STEAL YOUR IDENTITY.
IF they are legite - they can pay through PAYPAL .. ITS SAFE AND LEGAL.
IF THEY PAY WITH A US POSTAL MONEY ORDER - DO NOT cash it in a bank!! Bring it to the Post Office. Banks sometimes can not tell the counterfeit ones from the real ones.
IF YOU DEPOSIT A US POSTAL MONEY ORDER INTO YOUR BANK - IT CAN BOUNCE 3 DAYS LATER AND YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AMOUNT OF THE MONEY ORDER. This is why most scammers want to give you a larger money order because you get stuck with the bill after YOU WESTERN UNION THEM THE BALANCE....
There have been Bed and Breakfasts that have taken reservations from Scammers with a certified check in advance.Then then the scammers cancel their reservation . They owe the B&B owner for cancelling 'late' so tell the owner to go ahead and 'cash the cashier check or money order' deduct the amount owed and then WESTERN UNION THEM THE BALANCE~
Some B&B owners would send the money before cashing the checks or before they cleared the bank only to have to repay the bank themself afterwards... It happens to other businesses too..
My daughter sold a X-box on Craiglist and a scammer wrote wanting to do a cashiers check for a higher amount and yet didnt give an address as to where to ship the X-box but was more interested in the Western Union refund of the balance and wanted to know HER address... so I stopped that ... never give your info.. get theirs... if they want the item being sold... and have the money.... there should be no problem...if they playk any game about it, dont fall for it.. greed gets some people thinking they will make a fast buck, but only the scammer makes the money.. not you...
THE FBI gets so many complaints they can no longer follow up on all of them. It is estimated that 20Billion Dollars a year get stolen this way..There was even an FBI report proving that some if not most of the 419Nigerian scams are used to fund Al-Quaida cells in Nigeria~
Scambusters, and EbolaMonkeyman and others have websites up teaching you how to fight back.
Some of the stuff on EbolaMonkeyman is VERY FUNNY TO READ.....AS THEY SCAM THE SCAMMERS... iT IS SO FUNNY BUT VERY INFORMATIONAL....
SO to simply advertize online will not get you scammed.. I have been selling online for over 2 years and have never gotten robbed~ I did get fake money orders once that I brought to the Post Office. There were 5 $900 money orders of which I was to receive $450 to cash them and WESTERN UNION THEM THE MONEY... BUT THE scammers picked on the wrong lady...I didnt have that much in my bank to cover the money orders so I brought them to the Post office and they checked them carefully and almost paid me! Then the PO master noticed that the fake money orders were a tiny bit larger then real ones, but they looked real, even to them...
The Post Office kept the bogus money orders...
It was a good thing I didnt bring them to my bank, because they would have bounced 3 days later!!
so you got to play it safe online but advertising itself will not hurt you...
Always get paid first, verify the payment, let it clear the bank... then ship the item,
:)
Ave
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